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Saturday, November 14, 2009
SENIJIALE ATTACKS F.I.R.M and C.I.A
Bula VO – No, i didn't think Tui Savu wud hve blocked me, most likely it's those irritating little poohs around him who must've blocked me when tried 2 post on SWM many many moons ago…speaking of which i think that matavakasese C.I.A sounds awfully like that blogger pr!ck F.I.R.M. These little poohs are the ones giving Tui a bad name.
Budhau condemns the Indians
“They” are not the reason why we have a coup culture in Fiji. Giving them amnesty or not will have no effect on whether we have coups in future or not. The first coup happened because a group of loser Ratus wanted to get the power back, the 2000 coup happened because another set of Ratus wanted their turn on the gravy train, and this coup happened because the descendants of the Ratus involved in the 1987 coup wanted to get back into power.
Sending these guys to jail will have no impact on the merry-go-round.
We gave amnesty to one coupster, we nailed the next guy and sent him in for life…we still ended up with this coup. So how do you think giving them amnesty or not will make a difference as to whether we have another coup or not.
Secondly, for you to draw that line in the sand, you have to do that position of power – which you do not have (remember how Bush senior drew that line in the sand with Saddam).
Here, you draw a line and Frank will throw that sand right in your face. that sand in your face and will continue to do so. (Nice line though – drawing that line in the sand – very American)
The problem in Fiji is the unwillingness of certain segments of the population to accept the results of a free and fair election..and the belief that certain people have this god given right to political power.
Even some idiots like you, who keep referring to others in here as “your types” – when you realize that accepting the results of an election is in the best interest of the country – even if you do not support that government or if that government has some Indians in it – that is when this coup culture will gradually fade away.
But no – next time it will be some “nationalist” idiot who will pull another coup – and folks like you will jump on that “indigenous rights” bandwagon…sort of like “support the cause and not the means” and then you will elect that coupster to parliament, elect him as PM, make him the head of the GCC and a national hero.
BTW – You still have not explained how you propose to keep the threat of prosecution alive and still get Frank to hand over power or in the alternative, how would you remove Frank by force.
And your silly remark about “This gang will implode” – The question isnot about them imploding, I think you should not be too concerned about how many people would they take down with them when they implode – and it may be in our interest to make sure that they don’t implode.
BTW – a side note – in 2002 when they were deciding on that Lalabalavu v. Ganiulau title – Rabuka had made a statement in the newspapers that if the tribunal did not do the right thing, there will tribal war – you think we are going to see some action this time. Fire Karo, fire karo.
….and do you think trying to remove Frank forcefully may also see tribalism raising its ugly head.
The Khaki nightmare was started when the Ratus thought that the boys in Khaki will guarantee the Ratu’s political power – I guess the moster they created turned around and just bit them in the arse.
So, you get this, it ain’t simple – so keep your emotions out of this – you hatred of these guys and the Indians sometimes affects your ability to think rationally.
Sending these guys to jail will have no impact on the merry-go-round.
We gave amnesty to one coupster, we nailed the next guy and sent him in for life…we still ended up with this coup. So how do you think giving them amnesty or not will make a difference as to whether we have another coup or not.
Secondly, for you to draw that line in the sand, you have to do that position of power – which you do not have (remember how Bush senior drew that line in the sand with Saddam).
Here, you draw a line and Frank will throw that sand right in your face. that sand in your face and will continue to do so. (Nice line though – drawing that line in the sand – very American)
The problem in Fiji is the unwillingness of certain segments of the population to accept the results of a free and fair election..and the belief that certain people have this god given right to political power.
Even some idiots like you, who keep referring to others in here as “your types” – when you realize that accepting the results of an election is in the best interest of the country – even if you do not support that government or if that government has some Indians in it – that is when this coup culture will gradually fade away.
But no – next time it will be some “nationalist” idiot who will pull another coup – and folks like you will jump on that “indigenous rights” bandwagon…sort of like “support the cause and not the means” and then you will elect that coupster to parliament, elect him as PM, make him the head of the GCC and a national hero.
BTW – You still have not explained how you propose to keep the threat of prosecution alive and still get Frank to hand over power or in the alternative, how would you remove Frank by force.
And your silly remark about “This gang will implode” – The question isnot about them imploding, I think you should not be too concerned about how many people would they take down with them when they implode – and it may be in our interest to make sure that they don’t implode.
BTW – a side note – in 2002 when they were deciding on that Lalabalavu v. Ganiulau title – Rabuka had made a statement in the newspapers that if the tribunal did not do the right thing, there will tribal war – you think we are going to see some action this time. Fire Karo, fire karo.
….and do you think trying to remove Frank forcefully may also see tribalism raising its ugly head.
The Khaki nightmare was started when the Ratus thought that the boys in Khaki will guarantee the Ratu’s political power – I guess the moster they created turned around and just bit them in the arse.
So, you get this, it ain’t simple – so keep your emotions out of this – you hatred of these guys and the Indians sometimes affects your ability to think rationally.
Annon say's if you give them amnesty the coup culture will still continue
It doesn’t make sense? Give him (them) an amnesty & it continues?
Stop it here once & for all – draw a line in the sand – apart from the political & social damage inflicted he (they) must be held accountable for some very serious allegations against individuals? VB has Rabuka for a role model – let him (them) off scot free and it just continues – a khaki nigtmare streaching into infinity. Do not be lulled into the mistaken premise that its our problem – problem is theirs & time & history is on our side. This gang will implode – be it sooner or later – its inevitable.
Don’t concern yourself about executions or jails – think Rotumah.
Sa lako.
Stop it here once & for all – draw a line in the sand – apart from the political & social damage inflicted he (they) must be held accountable for some very serious allegations against individuals? VB has Rabuka for a role model – let him (them) off scot free and it just continues – a khaki nigtmare streaching into infinity. Do not be lulled into the mistaken premise that its our problem – problem is theirs & time & history is on our side. This gang will implode – be it sooner or later – its inevitable.
Don’t concern yourself about executions or jails – think Rotumah.
Sa lako.
Budhau supports Bainimarama to be in Power forever!!!
Anon – I thought you were more intelligent than that.
Anyway – Let us look at what you wrote.
First, you wrote that “You have somehow accepted that Bainimarama will stay in power forever?”
Come on lady, why would anyone accept that Bainimarama, or for that matter, anyone else can remain in power “forever”.
Here, I will tell you what my assumption is. If Bainimarama and the military were to leave voluntarily, than he will make certain that there is a airtight amnesty agreement before he leaves. No amnesty or any threat of prosecution and they ain’t leaving 2014 or 2030.
Of course you don’t have to agree to a amnesty, however, this only means that Bainimarama or the military will not leave voluntarily. In that case, I would like to hear you plans as to how you suggest we remove this military by force.
Just remember that this military rule can outlive Qarase, Chaudary, Bainimarama, you and I – it might not be for ever but it sure can stay in power for a very long time.
You do realize that this about a military dictatorship – not about Frank alone, and some of these military dictatorships have a life of their own.
Even if you have a plan to take down this military by force, we still have to figure out at what cost and than balance that with the alternative ways of getting out of this mess. Remember, if the military council and Frank are faced with a life in prison, they will go down fighting – and they will take down a whole lot of other folks with them.
As for the Global community – all I have seen so far is that the ANZ policy of destabilization – economic destabilization, collapse of the judiciary and that may lead to hardship in the population and that would lead to social upheaval and hopefully that may lead to the downfall of this regime. Is this the price that we are willing to pay.
What I see on this board and a group of bastards who are more interested in revenge than anything else. They would love to nail Franks ass to wall – never mind what the cost and by letting emotion get in the way, these buggers are not capable of thinking rationally.
Without amnesty, there will be no political solution to this impasses…. if you want a military solution to this problem, well those guys are the military.
As for your remake “A week is a long time in politics” – how long have those goons in Rangoon been running the show…and I am sure the “global community” is working hard to sort out things out there too.
We have been in this shit since 1987 – how much longer do you want this to continue….maybe another several generations.
Oh, I get it…. Fiji is a dinky little country and ANZ should not have any problem crushing Fiji – right?…. its just that they have not been able to do much in the last three years.
Anyway – Let us look at what you wrote.
First, you wrote that “You have somehow accepted that Bainimarama will stay in power forever?”
Come on lady, why would anyone accept that Bainimarama, or for that matter, anyone else can remain in power “forever”.
Here, I will tell you what my assumption is. If Bainimarama and the military were to leave voluntarily, than he will make certain that there is a airtight amnesty agreement before he leaves. No amnesty or any threat of prosecution and they ain’t leaving 2014 or 2030.
Of course you don’t have to agree to a amnesty, however, this only means that Bainimarama or the military will not leave voluntarily. In that case, I would like to hear you plans as to how you suggest we remove this military by force.
Just remember that this military rule can outlive Qarase, Chaudary, Bainimarama, you and I – it might not be for ever but it sure can stay in power for a very long time.
You do realize that this about a military dictatorship – not about Frank alone, and some of these military dictatorships have a life of their own.
Even if you have a plan to take down this military by force, we still have to figure out at what cost and than balance that with the alternative ways of getting out of this mess. Remember, if the military council and Frank are faced with a life in prison, they will go down fighting – and they will take down a whole lot of other folks with them.
As for the Global community – all I have seen so far is that the ANZ policy of destabilization – economic destabilization, collapse of the judiciary and that may lead to hardship in the population and that would lead to social upheaval and hopefully that may lead to the downfall of this regime. Is this the price that we are willing to pay.
What I see on this board and a group of bastards who are more interested in revenge than anything else. They would love to nail Franks ass to wall – never mind what the cost and by letting emotion get in the way, these buggers are not capable of thinking rationally.
Without amnesty, there will be no political solution to this impasses…. if you want a military solution to this problem, well those guys are the military.
As for your remake “A week is a long time in politics” – how long have those goons in Rangoon been running the show…and I am sure the “global community” is working hard to sort out things out there too.
We have been in this shit since 1987 – how much longer do you want this to continue….maybe another several generations.
Oh, I get it…. Fiji is a dinky little country and ANZ should not have any problem crushing Fiji – right?…. its just that they have not been able to do much in the last three years.
Anon say's Budhau is Mad
Your eitheir mad or compromised?
Prosecute everyone “without exception” – this is the only way we will deter future coups. Reconcilation does not equate automatic amnesty.
You have somehow accepted that Bainimarama will stay in power forever?
Not so – Fiji is still part of a wider global community & there are forces at work that even dictators have no control over.
A week is a long time in politics.
Prosecute everyone “without exception” – this is the only way we will deter future coups. Reconcilation does not equate automatic amnesty.
You have somehow accepted that Bainimarama will stay in power forever?
Not so – Fiji is still part of a wider global community & there are forces at work that even dictators have no control over.
A week is a long time in politics.
Budhau said that Ratu Mara should be hang!!!
Hey guys, they way out of this is not insisting on prosecuting those involved and sending them to jail for life.
What we need is reconciliation – and that must happen somewhere down the line – otherwise there will be no end this this.
If Frank knows that he will be prosecuted for what he did, what are the chances that he and his military council will step aside for a democratically elected government that expected to turn around and prosecute them
Let us now compare Chaudary joining this administration after the coup with Ratu Mara joining a previous post coup administration. In Mara’s days, the punishment for treason was death – how many of you would support the idea that Mara should have been charged, convicted and hanged. Just like Chaudary should be charged, convicted and sent to jail for life.
What if we can have our legal experts in a post coup government find a loophole in Rabuka’s amnesty deal – should be then prosecute Rabuka and all those who had anything to do with that coup – including all the judges who had signed up after Rabuka had abrogated the constitution.
Anon – about my suggestion you wrote “Above is absolute bullshit – “not in the best interest of out nation”.
Do you think it will be in the best interest of out nation to pursue a policy of reconciliation – a good faith reconciliation – not the crap we saw with Qarase trying to release George Speight because of his promise to the Matanitu crowd.
It is easy to make some idiotic remark that this is all “bulshit” – BTW – even if we send Frank to jail for life – do you honestly believe that this would be a deterrent for future coup.
When Rabuka pulled his coup – we had the death penalty for treason – do you think that factored into Rabuka’s decision. Rabuka’s thinking was that “there is no other way” and “I did it and I will swing for it if I have do”
So anon and a few others in here, you cut out your bullshit – that the other coups were OK but we nail these guys ass to the wall.
What we need is reconciliation – and that must happen somewhere down the line – otherwise there will be no end this this.
If Frank knows that he will be prosecuted for what he did, what are the chances that he and his military council will step aside for a democratically elected government that expected to turn around and prosecute them
Let us now compare Chaudary joining this administration after the coup with Ratu Mara joining a previous post coup administration. In Mara’s days, the punishment for treason was death – how many of you would support the idea that Mara should have been charged, convicted and hanged. Just like Chaudary should be charged, convicted and sent to jail for life.
What if we can have our legal experts in a post coup government find a loophole in Rabuka’s amnesty deal – should be then prosecute Rabuka and all those who had anything to do with that coup – including all the judges who had signed up after Rabuka had abrogated the constitution.
Anon – about my suggestion you wrote “Above is absolute bullshit – “not in the best interest of out nation”.
Do you think it will be in the best interest of out nation to pursue a policy of reconciliation – a good faith reconciliation – not the crap we saw with Qarase trying to release George Speight because of his promise to the Matanitu crowd.
It is easy to make some idiotic remark that this is all “bulshit” – BTW – even if we send Frank to jail for life – do you honestly believe that this would be a deterrent for future coup.
When Rabuka pulled his coup – we had the death penalty for treason – do you think that factored into Rabuka’s decision. Rabuka’s thinking was that “there is no other way” and “I did it and I will swing for it if I have do”
So anon and a few others in here, you cut out your bullshit – that the other coups were OK but we nail these guys ass to the wall.
Get the Fiji military out of politics once & for all
Correct – get the military out of politics once & for all – install a democratic (transparent) goverment asap. Don’t know if your aware of it & we truly trust were wrong? But right now Viti is wobbling on the edge of a very deep precipice. Don’t claim too have all the answers – but what is blantently obvious is whats happening right now simply doesn’t – & never will – work. If you believe that Viti is somehow immune from the pitfalls that have befallen other less fortunate countries?
Examine history & think again?
Hindsights easy – foresights not.
Examine history & think again?
Hindsights easy – foresights not.
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Friday, November 13, 2009
Budhau attacked CRW officers
CIA,
I NEVER said that – that ""Freefiji, freewheely the whale dont talk rubbish my man!! all CRW poofters are either dead, St Jiles or shamefully living their own lives!"
Now – you go figure.
BTW I think it is Free Willy not freewheely….you see, I would never make a mistake like that.
With you being no school and all that – maybe I should also offer you some roti-curry…but then you may accuse me of imposing the Indian way of life on you – I will just give that roti-curry to my dog.
Oh and CIA – as for the scare tactics – many have come before you – and they were smarter than you and soon figured it out that scaring people in here does not work and it is not good for your cause – it only makes you look like thugs, just like the other guys.
I remember Natewa Prince in here long time ago, he pulled the same crap you are doing. BTW – Natewa Prince was a bright, intelligent guy – what he did in trying to scare me was stupid and it was more emotional – but he was not a stupid person – you, on the other hand, are just an idiot.
BTW – if you see Natewa Prince on that "worldwide" crap – you tell him I said hi.
Budhau attacked C.I.A
CIA – I think that this political impasse will end with a total amnesty for all those who were involved in this coup – so your question about who should be charged and who should not is moot (you know what that means).
If we are able to forcibly remove Bainimarama and if the people who come into power decide to charge these people with the crime if they think that would be in our national interest – I am sure the legal minds in Fiji will be able to figure out who should be charged with what – and I am sure Chaudary, like all others may have to defend themselves in a court of law. Just like if we could have removed Rabuka, then I am sure you would have supported a charge of Treason against Ratu Mara, who was in a similar situation and that time since we had the death penalty for treason – you as a supporter of law and order would have supported that Ratu Mara should he hanged for his crimes – right.
I on the other other hand do no think that either Ratu Mara or Chaudary should have been charged for treason.
BTW – CIA why did you ask me about Chaudary – because you think I am an Indian, just like when I criticize Tui savu, I am being anti Fijian.
Here is a polite suggestion – if you want answers, next time you should frame your questions a little better. "Should all those people who a played significant role in this administration that was put in place after the coup be charged with treason."
My answer is no – because that would not be in the best interest of our nation.
Blogger Senijiale ruthlessly attacked the C.I.A
Bula VO – No, i didn't think Tui Savu wud hve blocked me, most likely it's those irritating little poohs around him who must've blocked me when tried 2 post on SWM many many moons ago…speaking of which i think that matavakasese C.I.A sounds awfully like that blogger pr!ck F.I.R.M. These little poohs are the ones giving Tui a bad name.
F.I.R.M ...Fiji's In.... Revolutionary Movement
Budhau is a traitor to thr bloggers
CIA – I think that this political impasse will end with a total amnesty for all those who were involved in this coup – so your question about who should be charged and who should not is moot (you know what that means).
If we are able to forcibly remove Bainimarama and if the people who come into power decide to charge these people with the crime if they think that would be in our national interest – I am sure the legal minds in Fiji will be able to figure out who should be charged with what – and I am sure Chaudary, like all others may have to defend themselves in a court of law. Just like if we could have removed Rabuka, then I am sure you would have supported a charge of Treason against Ratu Mara, who was in a similar situation and that time since we had the death penalty for treason – you as a supporter of law and order would have supported that Ratu Mara should he hanged for his crimes – right.
I on the other other hand do no think that either Ratu Mara or Chaudary should have been charged for treason.
BTW – CIA why did you ask me about Chaudary – because you think I am an Indian, just like when I criticize Tui savu, I am being anti Fijian.
Here is a polite suggestion – if you want answers, next time you should frame your questions a little better. "Should all those people who a played significant role in this administration that was put in place after the coup be charged with treason."
My answer is no – because that would not be in the best interest of our nation.
Budhau has been crushed!!!
I see that Anon and Nostra, the husband and wife team came in with a one two punch here.
You see Nostra, the RawFijiNews piece above makes sense. The author is trying not hurt the feelings of certain segments of the Fijian community who have been stealing from their own.
So when the author above states, "The qoliqoli bill did have honourable intent…." that is saying that the SDL SOBs had their eyes on the QoliQoli money, that is, right after they had cashed in on the mahogany, they would move into the QoliQoli cash.
Regarding the bill, when the author says it had no "..intent to protect traditional Fijian fishing areas from exploitation and I think the wider Fiji community respects that." she is partially right – yes, the bill had nothing to do with the rights of the indigenous, just the coups we have had before – no gives a crap about indigenous rights – that is how it has been successive Fijian administrations – however, the author is wrong when she suggests that the wider Fiji community respects that – yes, many in Fiji do respect the move to better the life of the poor rural Fijians – but some of these same Fijians would turn around and vote the SDL back into power – because of the Indian bogey man.
Overall, the above piece from RFN is a really good piece – I think the idiot Nostradamus just did not get it…that is why he posted it in here.
Yes Nostra, Frank and his people do not have long term solutions for specific problems – no one expects them to have those solutions – we all want them to get out of the way once the elecroral reforms are completed and a new election is help in 2014 or hopefully earlier. One would expect them to deal with one issue at a time, the best they can.
We all expect the new elected government to deal with any changes to the new constitution that would be put into place by these guys – incremental changes. I am sure that it will be the new government that will deal with the long term Qoli Qoli issues, land lease issue, saving the sugar industry, if it can be saved and the rest.
I think you idiots should start attacking the article above as being anti-SDL and therefore being anti-Fijian, and anti Tui Savu…..probably written a vulangi with that subtle attack on the SDL.
As to how "long the pressure would remain contained". I think most folks are willing to sit it through til 2014 and see how things go – unless the economy totally collapses. After that, the long term problems don't addressed and the military insists in staying in power – then the pressure may begin to build up to the point that things may not be contained.
Gonei so la e kila – I think you expected too much from Frank – this coup, like all others, was a simple grab for power.
The important thing now is to figure out how we get out of this and have a society that is better than what we had under Qarase and the previous governments without doing any serious damage to our country.
You see, when your hand is stuck under a rock – you slowly ease it out, without applying to much pressure. Unless of course you are on a reef and the tide is coming in – then you chop off you hand and save your life.
The way I see it, we are in a position where we can slowly ease that hand out from under the rock. It is not time to chop off the hand – not yet.
Monday, November 9, 2009
Budhau supports the Sri Lankan Judges
What it said was that there is “uncertainty as to whether appointment to judicial office in an illegal regime amounts to professional misconduct…”
These judges are not being asked to decide the legitimacy and validity of a regime. This regime has come into power by a successful coup and they have, by decree, made it clear that the question of the regimes validity or legitimacy is outside the jurisdiction of the courts.
Whether this regime is valid and legitimate is a “political question” – so no one is asking these judges to rule and legitimize the coup.
However, the courts have to survive and the rule of law has to survive and for that we still need competent judges. By taking up positions in the judiciary, these judges are not endorsing or legitimizing the regime.
We have seens numerous coups throughout the world in the last 50 years, and this same issue has been discussed every time. And there are people who come down on both sides of this argument.
Here in Fiji we had a similar situation in 1987 – the constitution was abrogated, judges were fired or jailed, the supreme court was abolished, the Chief Justice was advising the coup leaders and we had Sri Lankan come in to fill in the gap. This is nothing new.
You go look at judicial responses to coups through history and you would see that what is being done now in Fiji is nothing new.
Cassava Patch Doll Says:
hankered for that he would not otherwise have in the real world.
Let's not be naive Fiji, he was behind the 1987 coup, but conveniently
left our shores a couple of days before his stooge Rabuka executed it.
He learned well at Sandhurst.
But Nailatikau better learn how to put on his daipers because the
moemimi time is upon him and his scheming mrs won't be wiping up the
da that's for sure.
The above picture is puzzling, he is the only one who looks pleased
with himself, well who wouldn't be after they've been made presidente,
the others look like they're suffering from flatulence.
Then again, vore may have dropped his guts, the women are embarrassed
and Nailatikau has looked casually the other way as he mutters for
only the four of them to hear, 'veka na vuaka kaisi'.
Bhudhau Attacks the President of Solivakasama Worldwide Movement for a Better Fiji.
Budhau is a regular blogger who lives in Australia wants to destroy, like coup leader and self declared pm of Fiji the Pig Bainimarama everything that is about the Fijian people.
This is what he has to say about the President of SWM Mr Savu,we urged Mr Savu to never give in to Budhau
First the disclaimer – I don't think much of this Tui Savu and I think
the democracy movement would be better off without these people who
have their own agenda.
First the guys seems to have an ego issue with his "Solivakasama is
one of Fiji's most popular freedom blog sites" – I don't see the
relevance of that. Then he talks about how "I have been a constant
critic against the Military Dictator Commodore Frank Bainimarama prior
to his December 2006 coup up to the current time."
This ain't about Tui Savu
As a lawyer, I am sure Savu is aware of how you lay the foundation
before you introduce evidence – but still this has to be relevant.
Savu then talks about "the torture and unlawful treatment of Prof.
Brij Lal an Australian citizen"
Brij Lal was taken in for questioning regarding his statement to the
media – that was not illegal – and the torture that Savu is talking
about was described by Lal as some verbal abuse – there was some
pissed of soldier questioning Lal yelled at him and I think used foul
language –
Savu as a lawyer should know what torture is and what is unlawful.
Fiji had every right to kick out Dr Lal.
Savu then goes of on Gates, he should not know full well that Gates
has not violated any Australian law – if he has taken up that position
in Fiji in violation of Fijian law, then it is up to the Fijian
authorities now or a future government in Fiji to deal with this. This
is where the sovereignty issue come in and no internal interference.
Savu then brings up the Prasad case, how Gates had ruled in that case.
In law there is something called precedent and if a judge rules
contrary to that precedent, usually the judge distinguishes this case
in point – how this case is different from the previous case. In the
Qarase v. Bainimarama, Gates had clearly distinguished that Prasad
case – I suggest that Savu go read the last Gates decision .
Savu also mentioned several other Australian and Kiwis who have taken
up positions in Fiji – they are not violating any laws in their own
country – if they are violating a Fijian law – it is Fiji's internal
issue.
Otherwise, ANZ can pass legislation to address such issues. Savu is
asking Australia to pass such laws. I am sure Australia has looked
into it. And there is precedent for such legislation. Australians who
molest or abuse children abroad can be prosecuted back in Australia.
He then goes on as to why it is in ANZ interests to wipe out the coup
culture in Fiji. The coup culture in Fiji is the problem of the people
of Fiji. Even by making that suggestion that Australia should
interfere in this matter – Savu is defeating his own purpose.
If I had some time, I would further tear apart this Savu guys argument
– but I think above show the kinda lawyer this guy is.
If this is what the Democracy Movement in Fiji has – people like Tui
Savu leading the movement then I definately agree with Ofa GOD BLESS
FIJI…because we do need that.
This is what he has to say about the President of SWM Mr Savu,we urged Mr Savu to never give in to Budhau
First the disclaimer – I don't think much of this Tui Savu and I think
the democracy movement would be better off without these people who
have their own agenda.
First the guys seems to have an ego issue with his "Solivakasama is
one of Fiji's most popular freedom blog sites" – I don't see the
relevance of that. Then he talks about how "I have been a constant
critic against the Military Dictator Commodore Frank Bainimarama prior
to his December 2006 coup up to the current time."
This ain't about Tui Savu
As a lawyer, I am sure Savu is aware of how you lay the foundation
before you introduce evidence – but still this has to be relevant.
Savu then talks about "the torture and unlawful treatment of Prof.
Brij Lal an Australian citizen"
Brij Lal was taken in for questioning regarding his statement to the
media – that was not illegal – and the torture that Savu is talking
about was described by Lal as some verbal abuse – there was some
pissed of soldier questioning Lal yelled at him and I think used foul
language –
Savu as a lawyer should know what torture is and what is unlawful.
Fiji had every right to kick out Dr Lal.
Savu then goes of on Gates, he should not know full well that Gates
has not violated any Australian law – if he has taken up that position
in Fiji in violation of Fijian law, then it is up to the Fijian
authorities now or a future government in Fiji to deal with this. This
is where the sovereignty issue come in and no internal interference.
Savu then brings up the Prasad case, how Gates had ruled in that case.
In law there is something called precedent and if a judge rules
contrary to that precedent, usually the judge distinguishes this case
in point – how this case is different from the previous case. In the
Qarase v. Bainimarama, Gates had clearly distinguished that Prasad
case – I suggest that Savu go read the last Gates decision .
Savu also mentioned several other Australian and Kiwis who have taken
up positions in Fiji – they are not violating any laws in their own
country – if they are violating a Fijian law – it is Fiji's internal
issue.
Otherwise, ANZ can pass legislation to address such issues. Savu is
asking Australia to pass such laws. I am sure Australia has looked
into it. And there is precedent for such legislation. Australians who
molest or abuse children abroad can be prosecuted back in Australia.
He then goes on as to why it is in ANZ interests to wipe out the coup
culture in Fiji. The coup culture in Fiji is the problem of the people
of Fiji. Even by making that suggestion that Australia should
interfere in this matter – Savu is defeating his own purpose.
If I had some time, I would further tear apart this Savu guys argument
– but I think above show the kinda lawyer this guy is.
If this is what the Democracy Movement in Fiji has – people like Tui
Savu leading the movement then I definately agree with Ofa GOD BLESS
FIJI…because we do need that.
Sunday, November 8, 2009
The Fiji Police Force Under Taliban Teleni
On the news yesterday, 106 FM reported police officers being picked up from their homes. A police spokeperson stated that cops are on duty 24/7 and are entitled to such privileges, stating further, If the cop doesnt have transportation he is entitled to be picked up so he isnt late work. It is understandable if it is an emergency, but not having transport to work, thats lame,the rest of us either work hard and save and buy a vehicle or we just catch the bus. In most cases we call the police during crimes, their usual excuse is they dont have a vehicle, and further more.
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